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BOBBY
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 11:25 AM

  wat do u think i ssay no

 
   
pizdetz
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 11:28 AM

  how the fuck should we know
 
   
BOBBY
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 11:51 AM

  well if u belive in him then u think he exists in this world i say there is no god it just imagination something ppl in the past where they had no life tought
 
   
mikey86
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 12:38 PM

  there is no fucking god....there is no religion, some guy sat on his ass and wrote the bible a long long time ago...We are just brought up to believe there is a god so we have somethin to worship
 
   
Vitali
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 03:02 PM

  That's not a relevant question. Does God exist in the sense that we picture him (20 feet tall, old, long white beard, lives on a cloud)? Probably not. Are there beings that could could potentially be more intelligent than us and that have the powerto control us? Sure.

I'm a person who believes in science, even still, a leap of faith is not a bad thing. Religion on the other hand was thought up for the purpose of controlling people. I have something against religion, but I have nothing against people who believe in God. I myself am a believer, but I also believe that if God exists, he won't care whether or not we do a bunch of specific rituals, as long as we live our lives to the fullest.
 
   
Downsy
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 04:05 PM

  Go Scientology!

 
   
BOBBY
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 04:35 PM

  yeahh i meant to ask who belives in god insetead of that question but

i say god dosn't exist
god is just an excuse for ppl to think of way of where the human life began god is just a excuse for all the ppl that can't explin where we came from they can't prove it so they found a easier way and saying god bought us here i personaly thing all these guys like jesus mohamed and all them are noting but really smart ppl that liked to help others so inorder to get ppl attention they said they are from god
 
   
Tinkerb1tch
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 06:03 PM

  Don't know don't really care
 
   
Vitali
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 07:09 PM

 
  Quote: Tinkerb1tch
  Don't know don't really care


Good attitude. As I said, this isn't really a relevant question, the way it was posed anyway. Who believes in God on the other hand...I'd like to hear a counter-argument from someone who does believe.
 
   
True_vanilla
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 07:13 PM

  religion was made for us to follow laws, if you disobeyed and sinned you would be punshied for it, so back in the old day it was used to keep people under control... now its used to have a larger number of followers cuz most liekly one day a race or religious WW3 will erupt!!!!
 
   
True_vanilla
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 07:15 PM

  God is somethign used for us to be scared of doing "bad" things so god is pretty much bullshit, because if he was realistic and lived on our plane then we would of saw him like moses, jesus, and mohammad did...
 
   
True_vanilla
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 07:17 PM

  they say that god is like wind, you feel him and can hear him but u can never see him...i call that a good idea of creating BULLSHIT!
 
   
BOBBY
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Posted: April 30 2006 at 07:18 PM

  in todays world its hard to find young ppl teens to belive in god most don't yeahh i wanted someone religios to answer to this so i can have a discussian on that
 
   
Whisky
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 02:57 AM

  This by no means is an easy answer but I'll try to be brief.

Firstly I have to say, as far as spiritual religion and beliefs are concerned, I have none. So understand everything I am about to convey, is completely from a scientific/ factual-historic view point.

The bible...is it real?: YES.

The bible was written moreover as a documentation of times, and should be treated as a collection of facts, not a spirtual story. Regarding comments of "Religion on the other hand was thought up for the purpose of controlling people." is some what true.

Different nations through rewritings and translations, have been albe to control people through twisting the bible. Just like a statisitic, the bible at one point was 100 percent accurate. And just like a statistic,(eg. the decisive use of number presentations that give financial institutions the casino edge ) through devious twisting you can make the bible portray and depict any ideaologies that the manipulator sees fit for his present political situation and/or goals.

Every day scientist and astronomist are discovering conclusive evidence that prove the bibles truth. (Eg. The Star of Bethlehem is actually beleived by many to be an astronomical event such as Hailey's Comet.) Some of the most important bible findings to the scientific/astronomic community have been such translations of cosmic events, not literal translations.

Another example would be great flood. Ancient clay tablets that were excavated in the 1930s in modern Iraq from the days of Mesopotamian Nations have been collecting dust for years in a London Musuem. They have recently been translated and amongst some of these tablets was the story of the great flood.
Mesopotamia which consisted of Assyia, Babylonia, and Sumer, in their times concidered themselves the world, because they were the most advanced civilizations during their peaks.Ground evidence of a flood that covered almost the entire Mesoptamian region has been confirmed, and coincides with the clay tablets story.

It is noteworth that in these times only royalty and the rich were completely or semi-literate, and story-telling was the best way the average person could retain knowledge and history.

I could also get into the real history of Jesus but I have seemed to get off topic. That will be another post.LOL.

So now that we know the bible is infact a history book, that speaks of a god, IS THERE A GOD?
YES.

In short, the answer is yes. I would like to first address followers of scientology in this forum. Let it be known that modern science is only catching up to what ancient civilizations had as knowledge. I will get into later discussions regarding human history; where this not being the first time we as humans have been this technologically advanced.

Continuing on, I'd like to shoot down the "big bang THEORY", and the "THEORY of evolution"because it is imperitive to the point at hand: IS THERE A GOD?

I'd like to take this time to mention that, the real question isn't "IS THERE A GOD". The real question is "WHO IS GOD?".

So in my writings both relgious and non-religious, can imformed of the real history, and make your own decisions on how these events took place and most importantly by whom.

The creation of life on earth didnt happen "suddenly" by any means. Life was actually imported to our solar system, which at the time had no life.

For members of the scientific community, it is easy to swallow that life on earth is not a miracle, and is indeed recipricated throughout many other solar systems such as our own. With that in mind I would like to begin.

At somepoint in time (I could get the exact date but truthfully this post is becoming quite lengthy and tiresome), another planet was ejected from a nearby solar system which was full of life,and was sent into the milky way. This planet collided with another planet, which at the time existed between Mars and Jupiter. This collision created the earth, the moon and another planet named Nibiru which also has life(I will expand on at another time). The remaining smaller fragments created the astroid belt.

Now was this GOD playing with the planets when he created life? Or was it simply just a cosmic event? Who is to really say.

Onto the THEORY of evolution, scientist have concluded that all life on earth was created at the same time. Formly, scientist estimated the human genome contained 100,000 - 140,000 genes(the stretches of DNA that direct the production of amino-acids and protiens). Thanks to modern technology they have mapped the entire human DNA genome at just over 30,000. Which is a litte more than double the amount a fruit fly has(13,601).

They have also changed their previous numbers of human and chimpanzie DNA genome comparisons from a 95 percent DNA match to almost a 99 percent DNA match. And a 70 percent match versus the Human and the Mouse!

The human genes, with the same functions, were found to be identical to the genes of other vertebrates,as well as invertebrates,plant,fungi, and even yeast. These findings not only confirmed that there was one source of DNA for all life on Earth, but also enabled the scientist to trace the evolutionary process - how more complex organisms evolved,genetically from simpler ones, adopting at each stage the genes of a lower life form to create a more complex life form - culminating with homosapies.

Basically they mapped all DNA to a style comparaible to the breakdown of electrons,protons,neutrons of elements. And how slight changes of electrons (or in this case DNA strands) can make a big difference in the final element - in this case life form.

Upon these discoveries, in tracing the vertical evolutionary record contained in the human and other analyed genomes, that the scientists ran into an enigma.They found the human genome contains 223 genes that do not have the required predecessors on the evolutionary tree!

Now where did these comes from?

In the evoltional progess from bacteria to invertebrates(such as the lineages of yeast,worms,flies or mustard weed- which have been completely deciphered) to vertebrates which have been completely deciphered(mice,chimpanzees, and now humans), these 223 genes are completely missing in the invertebrate phase. Therefore, the scientist can explain their presence in the human genome by a "rather recent probable horizontal transfer from bacteria".

In other words: at some point in in recent time as far as Evolution goes, modern humans acquired an extra 223 genes NOT THROUGH gradual evolution, not verticallly on the Tree of Life but horizontally, as a sideways insertion of gentic material from bacteria.

To inform people of how much 223 genes plays in the grand scheme of creating life, the human genome is made up of about 3 Billion neucleotides (the "letters" A-C-G-T which stands for the initials of the four nucleic acids that spell out all life on Earth).Of them just a little more than 1 percent are grouped into functioning genes(each gene consist of thousands of these "letters". The difference between one individual person and another amounts to about 1"letter" in a 1000 in the DNA alphabet.

To put it into perspective, the difference between man and chimpanzee is less than 1 percent as far as genes go, and 1 percent of 30,000 genes is 300.
So, 223 genes is more than two thirds of the difference between me, you and a chimpanzee!

Now to quote Steven Scherer, director of mapping of the Human Genome Sequencing Center, Baylor College of Medicine

"It is a jump that does not follow current evolutionary theories."

"We did not identify a strongly perferred bacterial source for the putative horizontally transfered genes"

So this concludes my post.

Now the Big Bang Theory is bullshit and so is the Evolutionary theory. But the Bible is TRUE for the most part.

Now that you have been enlightened, hopefully this
will change your question.

Not IS THERE A GOD? but WHO is GOD?
 
   
BOBBY
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 03:11 PM

  wow bro that is alottt
 
   
markyf
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 03:12 PM

  wow this guy does some serious copy/paste work
 
   
Whisky
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 10:43 PM

  Copy n paste? I challenge you to find any part of this exact artical somewhere else smart guy.
 
   
yums88
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Posted: May 01 2006 at 11:00 PM

  or this guy just knows what he talking about and reads a lot of books
 
   
mikey86
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Posted: May 02 2006 at 12:02 AM

  but i doubt he took teh time to write it word for word all hismelf..
 
   
mikey86
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Posted: May 02 2006 at 12:10 AM

  i actualy jsut read all of that man and i still believe there is not god, it just cant be...you thinkl every living creature that dies goes to heavan i mean liek when u run over a fuckin racoon or squirel u think they go to heavan? there just a dead piece of mean like we are when were dead, we die and it sliek were asleep just NOTHING...were jsut meat liek anything else
 
 
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